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#1 Tom Snyder

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 05:04 AM

Not found anything about this in here. so ....
Surprised to have had a bit of trouble finding a new heater motor when I could not get one working right & couldn't find another in my tons of saved 'junk'.
Napa did not even show one in their books. Took the old one in & the guy says, 'Oh, that's just a universal replacement motor.'
Ahh, yup, looked just like most others I have seen. But all the ones he came up with had a slightly shorter shaft. No good.
Went to Shucks. Dude looks it up. Special order, $65!
Posted Image Got another guy there to take me in back & we opened up many boxes & found this. $48. Man, I know I have a free one here somewhere! Posted Image Oh, well.

Cut 7/8" off the end of the shaft, splice the stock connectors on the new motor's wires & use the old vent tube, good to go.

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These fans are usually real easy to change out, but on this one unless you have an allen wrench that will reach at least 3 & 1/8" it will be tricky to get the fan off & on.
I didn't. : (
Before putting it back together I found this very rusty allen set in the old van. Shortened the 1/8" one & used a larger allen through the loop for leverage. I wanted that set screw reeal tight. About when I think I got it the loop on the 1/8' breaks off. Then the fan slides right off the shaft! WTF?!

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Wish I'd found this little allen bit in my many hundreds of hand tools before I first took the fan off, would have saved me a lot of fumbling around & frustration. It is hard to get in there. Saved my butt after busting that 'looped' allen.

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Still had to use that universal, the fins on the fan just did not line up straight with the set screw. Unusual.

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New motor mounted up & fit just like the stocker. Now my heater/defroster really blows! Posted Image

Oh, yeah, if you are having a problem with the blower motor switch, don't be afraid to take it apart. Nothing to it.

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Clean it all up & put in some new dielectric grease, works smooth.

Oh- forgot to mention the big surprise that the motor was made in Canada instead of China like all the others we saw.
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#2 69 classic pop-top

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:05 AM

Great info Thanks. :huh:
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:56 AM

Thanks for posting that Tom... Since I'm too lazy to go check this myself,, do you happen to know the shaft length on your original motor?.. I ask because,, using the number you provided, I stumbled onto a site that has some cross reference numbers (airtex, ac delco, etc.),, but looking up some of the numbers on rockauto shows a couple different motors with different shaft lengths.
Here's the site I found:
http://www.cshincorporated.com/product_inf...roducts_id/5454
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74 E-100,,,302, Auto, P/S, P/B, A/C... Nickname "Rondo"
65 E-100,,,240, 3 on the tree.......... Nickname "The Fish"
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#4 Tom Snyder

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 07:17 PM

Roger, the shaft length on the original motor is 1-1/4" to 1-5/16". It's got 1/16" play back & forth.
The 2-3/16" they show for the PM3607 minus 7/8" comes right to 1-5/16"
Wish I'd had those cross reference #'s. (ACI 334804, 334816, Everco M4816, Four Seasons 35514, Delco 15-8147) Good info.
$73.16! Yikes! Posted Image
When did these things get so spendy. Seems like anymore everything is. $28 for a set of points!
Long time since I bought any points, seems like I used to pay 6 -7 bucks.Posted Image

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 04:22 PM

I was just curious to find out what motor they sold to you. That's how I stumbled onto that site. It just happened to have those cross reference numbers,, so I checked out some of the motors with those numbers on rockauto. The shaft on the Four Seasons motor looks quite a bit longer than the AC Delco one.. So I don't see why they would have both of those listed as a cross reference number.

I don't know why the prices of things are getting so high lately. Maybe it's a conspiracy to get the older vehicles off the roads. ;)
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74 E-100,,,302, Auto, P/S, P/B, A/C... Nickname "Rondo"
65 E-100,,,240, 3 on the tree.......... Nickname "The Fish"
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#6 NortheastGuy1970E300

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 03:50 PM

Well.....I finally got the fan wheel off the heater motor.....That little 1/8" allen screw was so tight I thought for sure my allen wrench was going to snap.....

So it turned out to be that my heater blower motor needed more than just a squirt of wd-40... I think the bearings are toast....it's been making a horrible scraping metal on metal noise for some time now that has only been getting louder.

I was able to pull the heater motor apart, but unable to pull the shaft assembly out to get to the bearings - looks like a pressed fitting around the shaft and I don't want to mess with that.

So....I found brand spanking new heater blower motor at Aut0zone and R0ckauto for $30 bucks (Everco, part #35502).....

I'll post some pics when it arrives/installed this week.. Man oh man.... am I ever looking forward to having heat in my van.....

It's been a real pain in the gizzard improvising for cabin heat, as I've been opening the doghouse at red lights to let some of that lava heat pour in from my headers...

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:04 PM

threads like this are why i appreciate the forum...

you guys added some high quality info & photos.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:56 AM

Could one of you guys please take a picture of where the blower motor is located? Mine is also making a horrible grinding noise and i would like to replace it...I just have no idea where to start!

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:31 PM

How to search.....
http://econolines.ip...indpost&p=41831

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 07:26 PM

View PostWESTWOOD303, on 16 January 2012 - 05:56 AM, said:

Could one of you guys please take a picture of where the blower motor is located?

Passenger side.... See attached pics

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:14 PM

....some more pics of the old & new blower motor...

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#12 Tom Snyder

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:38 PM

Northeast, I probably could have looked up a lot of threads & pix & just given them to Westwood here or spent a lot of time writing a reply telling him all about the heater. But if he uses that search site he will find tons of stuff that will be useful to him.
It’s kind of like the old saying, “Give a man a fish & you will feed him for a day, teach him to fish & you will feed him for a lifetime”.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 12:22 AM

Did I do something wrong?

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 01:12 AM

View PostNortheastGuy1970E300, on 17 January 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

Did I do something wrong?
I’m not saying that you did. But you just ‘gave him a fish’. Posted Image




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